Wellness during and after treatment


The Mirror article today

In this article they state survival figures for stage 1 BC and say significant fall in survival rates above that.

I read something recently that said a T3 N2 M0 isn't necessarily stage 3 but it's a way of grading the tumour ... or am I misunderstanding and my T3 is stage 3?



Hi @Adnyl, according to Charity Publication T3N2M0 is stage 3 ...... hope this helps. I for one don’t look at statistics as they don’t apply to me, just an average, although trends can be significant! Kim xx


Hello @Adnyl the article you have linked is from The Daily Mail and is a ‘cut and paste’ job from The Mirror and The Sun, and imo very badly written.
I see that @Lirio345 has linked you to the page for staging, but if you are feeling uncertain or stressful ring your specialist nurse for assurance.
The story relates to Beth who is a contributor to this forum, I will see if I can find the link...
I can’t connect the link but if you look under News and Blogs her story should come up in the Real Life Stories section under Bethany Purvis, she has also contributed to a symptoms diary which appeared on this site yesterday.
With best wishes :x:

greyhound gal

I have previously had a major stress about survival rates, as well the figures that my oncologist quotes to me as the risk of cancer re-occurring , but he has acknowledged that these figures are not age or gender specific. They include everyone and at the moment the ‘average’ age to be diagnosed with bowel cancer is 68 for a male, and 72 for a female.
It’s all just figures, you’re not!
Best wishes Wendy :x::x:


After seeing statistics,results etc and coming to this site the only thing that matters is how you fight the disease its
not having the best surgeon or oncologist it's in the mind thinking positive and helping yourself. Some of the people on the site will tell you the bed news they was given but they fight another day,month and year.

Bear G

Hi @Adnyl
Your confusion is understandable as there is a lot written on this and some interchange the different classifications of staging.

The page that @Lirio345 has shared is a very good and clear explanation of staging - basically stage 3 relates to lymph node involvement (the N) without other organs being involved (metastases - the M). This is all regardless of the number following the T which is about the primary tumour in your bowel.

In terms of survival stats there are 2 things to consider.
1. It’s true that stage 1 has higher survival stats than stage 4 and is the reason so much effort is being put into improving early diagnosis.
2. Stats aren’t predictors of our individual survival as @greyhound gal mentioned, rather they help to show overall trends.
From these figures you can see how one country is doing versus another and even how different centres are doing.
They do show trends in survival over time and the great news is that survival rates in the U.K. are consistently improving and increasing.
What the stats don’t do is predict your survival because you aren’t in those stats, they’re not about you.

I’ve always viewed the stats and prognosis discussions as targets to beat, it’s worked for me!

The article is about Beth who’s a forum member and I’ve become friends with her via various things we’re doing for the charity. The aims of the article are to raise awareness of the disease and highlight how GPs can misdiagnose patients which was certainly the case for Beth. It’s also to launch an initiative that Beth has worked on with the charity to help people track they’re symptoms so it can help GPs make better diagnoses.

Hope this helps
Big hugs


I tend to take little notice of what's written in the press. If you look at the stuff that's wrote about bowel cancer in general none of it was true at least in my case. I wasn't over 70 when i got it. I never have drank red wine or alcohol apart from a glass at Christmas. I very rarely eat red meat. I was fit and healthy. The general consensus is you have to be the above to get bowel cancer which is untrue in so many cases. As for survival rates you live as long as you do.